Smith 2, 3, Part I

To continue our discussion of socialization, what do Tables 19 and 20 reveal? Why would it be important to look for socializing agents outside of kin networks?

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Table 19 examines religion in school and how much religious faith is expressed by teenagers at school. Other questions that were also answered are, if teens who are openly religious feel they are looked down upon and if they feel they are made fun of because of their religious beliefs and practices. Only 12% of religious teens express their faith a lot in school. Table 20 examines the relationship of teens with adults in religious congregations of religious services. A large majority of teens from all religious traditions enjoy talking to the non-family adults in their congregations. Tables 19 and 20 demonstrate the importance of socializing agents outside of kin networks. Teens socialize with different peers other than just their families, and it is important to analyze these relationships as well. Table 19 demonstrates how some religious teens may limit their religious expressions as they may be with peers who practice other faith traditions. Table 20 demonstrates that teens would appreciate having more religious, non-family adults in their lives as well.

I agree, its was surprising to see the way that religious faith was openly accepted in non-religious spaces such as school's. I wonder if its because the more secular space means that the proclamations of religious faith are filtered through that context and thus not as aggressive as it would be in a church or another more explicitly religious space. I would like to see if they explore this deeper in later chapters as the girls in the earlier chapters don't really mention the way their friends react to their religious faith.

Although schools are supposed to be secular spaces, they do provide for religious tolerance. I think school's can allow for different faith traditions, but they can't affiliate with just one specific faith tradition. I think schools create a space where one can identify as an atheist and not face any discrimination the same way a student should be able to say they are muslim and not face any discrimination. I think what you mentioned about how other religious spaces may be a little more hostile to other practices may true. This hostility may be more possible in another religious institution than school.

I agree 100%, many teens may encounter problems with religious prejudices and become uncomfortable with expressing who they identify with religiously. as stated before they fear that people would make fun of their beliefs and fear of being picked at because they behave differently and carry themselves in a certain way.

I agree 100%, many teens may encounter problems with religious prejudices and become uncomfortable with expressing who they identify with religiously. as stated before they fear that people would make fun of their beliefs and fear of being picked at because they behave differently and carry themselves in a certain way.

I agree with you however I also think Table 19 isn't just about limiting their religious expression‘s, because they are in environment where there is religious pluralism, it is not important for them to put their religiosity out there. Especially since they understand that everyone is different in terms of religious belief or lack of belief. And then for table 20 I don’t know if it’s necessarily about having more religious adults in their lives, but I think it’s more about how their religious circles give them more access to adults that they trust, can confide in, and seek advice from. So, I don’t think that both tables are related to the religiosity of the teens but more of how, in a school environment, religion is not a primary factor and they don’t have access to adults who are willing to support them and give them advice (since teachers can be seen as more of an authoritative figure). And religious areas give them those things.

The tables convey the necessity of non-family religious adults, along with a sort of religious code switching outside of spiritual institutions like school; interesting enough most of these changes are due to tolerance and wanting meld better in a society of others who don't share the same faith.

These tables show the way that teenagers religious faith is affected by individuals who exist outside their immediate family in external social situations. Table 19 talks about the way teenagers express their faith in a social situation that is peer related and explicitly not religious in nature as a contrast to the experiences they might have in peer related situations that are explicitly religious in character such as youth camps, etc. Table 20 examine the effect and relationships that adults who were not the teenagers parents have on the teenager and their religious faith. Its important to examine these relationships because it examines the way as children age they are introduced to more social influences that impact their interaction with religious faith, many of them being the relationships they form with people who surround them in non-religious context. These pressures from outside sources and how it contrasts with the relationships of immediate family can help to better reveal the way socialization grows with age.

I agree that when looking at religion and the way it effects teens,you must look at the whole picture.Their family life is surely a factor,however outside sources such as religious institutions and the adults thag they socialize with over there are significant as well.I was curious to know what other examples of institutions might effect these teens ,in terms of their religious experiences?

Table 19 reveals experiences of school-attending US adolescents among peers and at school ages 13-17. A majority of US teens express their religion publicly of 12%. While half of Jews and Catholics teens never express their religion during their school years. Some are looked down upon when showing their religion of one in five US teens. Jewish and Mormon have a high measure of pressure and are provoked when displaying religious traditions. While Table 20 reveals relationships with adults in religious congregations. Jews have a high portion of 92% that enjoy communicating with non-family adults in congregation locations.

Table 19 investigates how teenagers express religion in school.Only 12% of religious teens express their religious faith openly.It is important to keep in mind their is plenty of pressure and bullying in schools.Table 20 reveals that most teens feel safe and open up to adults in their religious institutions.These charts allow us to see the important of socializing for these teens outside of their families.

I agree with you. When students tend to express their religion most are stereotyped or bullied because of their certain believes they have. It shows how religious pluralism is in issue in education institutions. Its definitely important for school to teach students how to respect other religions. However, it makes sense how teens feel more safe to open up to adults in their religious institutions because its a self-identity that they can relate too.

It could be embarrassing for a child to express their religion beliefs in school, for a few reasons I can think of. 1, because they are not mentally prepared with facts as to why they follow, practice, and believe that their religion is the true religion. Another reason I can think of is because it doesn't really matter so much, everyone has their own background, and in school, kids just want to be kids.

I agree with you on your analysis. The ignorance students have about religion contributes to the lack of religious expressive freedom among students who are practicing. The adults at the religious institutions serve as points of comfort to students experiencing bullying based on their expression of their religion.

this is true, students sometimes do get bullied in schools because of their beliefs, maybe it is because they've heard their parents or people they look up to religiously talk down upon other religions.

Table 19 and 20 relate to religion based on teens on those who express it in public or private institution and table 20 shows how teens are more comfortable talking about their religion beliefs to adults in their congregations. Its important to see that only 12% of teens express their religion beliefs which is a big problem. As I mentioned before in a comment this shows that there might be no religious pluralism in social institutions or there is a tolerance towards religions. Nonetheless, we can see that the percentage for teens is higher in table 20 when they express their faith to adults in their religious institutions which that they tend to open about their faith because they can relate to adults an in those in their congregation than outside.

I agree with you. Religious institutions serve as a place of comfort for stupids who are being mistreated in schools that don't recognize the importance of pluralism within their own population.

Table 19 examines religion within educational systems and how religious faiths are demonstrated by teenagers at school. The results show that 12% of religious teens express their faith particularly in school. Table 20 shows the relationship between teens and adults in religious congregations. However, the majority of teens from all religious affiliations favor speaking to the non-family adults of their congregations. Tables 19 and 20 show the importance of socializing agents. Teens socialize with differently among different people. Table 19 demonstrates how some religious teens may demonstrate their religious expressions with peers, whereas Table 20 demonstrates that teens would appreciate having more religious, non-family adults involved.

Table 19 and 20 are both allowing us to see the way religion functions outside of adolescents familial relationships. While Table 19 focuses on the expression of faith in school, Table 20 focuses on the relationships that adolescents share with adults within their congregation that are, again, outside of their familial ties. It's important to look for socializing agents outside of kin networks because these are often more telling of teens religious life. Secondary socialization is in some ways more powerful than primary socialization, because this type of socialization takes place outside the home. There's certain norms that come with being part of a family unit, and those norms do not need to be so strictly adhered to outside of the home setting which can reveal a lot to us about how adolescents truly view religion and faith within their life.

It's interesting that you mention secondary socialization being more powerful than primary socialization. I think secondary socialization allows the religion of adolescence to be tested. Like you added, it reveals how one really feels about their religion/faith.

I agree that social norms do not have to be strictly in the home setting when adolescents venture out they are able to become themselves and include their religious beliefs in everyday life without feeling like they have to be bashed for it.

Table 19 talks about the way teenagers express their faith in a social situation that is peer related and explicitly not religious as a contrast to the experiences they might have in peer-related cases that are explicitly religious such as youth camps. Table 20 examines the effect and relationships that adults who were not the teenager's parents have on the teenager. A majority of US teens express their religion publicly of 12%. Both relate to worship based on teens on those who represent it in public or private institution, and table 20 shows how teens are more comfortable talking about their religious beliefs to adults in their congregations. In the end, it's important to look for socializing agents outside of kin networks because these are often more telling of teen’s religious life.

Table 19 shows religion and schooling. How religious faith is and if it is expressed by teenagers in a school setting/atmosphere. Some of the teens express their religion in school and some do not. Table 20 shows adolescent and adult relationships with non family congregation members. Interestingly enough, Jews have the highest rate of relationship with non family congregation members at a staggering 92%!

Table 19 shows relgion in social situations such as school. Many students do not express their religion in school while some do. Half of Jews and catholic never express their relgion and 12% of teens express their relgious faith openly. The table shows how students are socialized in school and rather not express their religious identify if fear of being bullied or perhaps disliked. Table 20 shows how adolescent feel more comfortable expressing relgious beliefs with adults.

Table 19 and 20 show how religion functions outside of adolescent familial relationships.
Table 19 focuses on the expression of faith in school. Table 20 shows the relationships that adolescents share with adults within their congregation that are outside of their familial ties. Socializing agents outside of kin networks are important because they convey information in a more personal network, given that they are similar in culture and experiences compared to their parents. Secondary socialization is in some ways more powerful than primary socialization, because this type of socialization takes place outside the home. Adolescents behave differently with others than their parents so the way that religious information is convery is drastically different.

Table 19 shows us how an adolescent is viewed at school and what are his/her experiences at school with religion and its acceptance. Table 20 shows us how an adolescent views various relationships with various actors at a religious congregation one goes to. It is important to look at secondary socialization agents because they can reinforce religious values and further solidify belief in religion.

The table shows how much teens express their religious beliefs in school and 12% do. Socialization explains this because this means students feel ashamed expressing their religious beliefs so they try to fit in and not express it because they believe thats what society accepts.

Table 19 reveals the expression of religion in school. School have always implicitly been non welcoming of practicing religion. The table shows that most teens express little to no religion during school. Some religious teens may even feel pressured or made fun of because of their religious beliefs and practices.

Table 19 speaks about religion in school and how it can affect adolescents. It shows that teens that are more religious, can be judged by their peers because of how they take their faith seriously. Religion gives individuals an idea of what is moral and immoral, which can be taken as what is socially accepted by adolescents and what is not. This reflects poorly on a teen through the eyes of their peers. In table 20, it shows how teens are more comfortable talking about religion with adults during religious services. This is because they are in a setting where they are less judged. Only 12% according to the table, express religious beliefs publically. This shows, that teens should look for socializing agents outside of kin networks because they will be able to express themselves that they don’t feel like they can when they are around other people such as their peers.